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DerNebel said:

Yeah wow, Japan's going to make the difference here... in Nov+Dec 2008 the PS3 only sold about 300k units in Japan, even if we assume that the PS4 will only sell about 100k in those months in Japan this year, then that's a difference that will probably easy be made up by the black friday difference in the US alone.

The better appeal in the US is massively more important in the holidays then it is in the rest of the year. To give an example, let's look at 2008 again, this is what the PS3 and 360 had sold in 2008 at the end of October:

PS3: 6.8m

360: 5.9m

and where did both systems end up for 2008?

PS3: 10.2m

360: 10.8m

What happened? Mainly the holidays in the US, the 360 was so much more popular in the US that it managed to still overtake the PS3 for the year thanks to the holidays.

But sure sweetheart let's bet.

What you wanna bet? 1 month of sig control?

sure.

any look at my mom % figures for the 360 ;)

 

ps4 needs to do better than 360 to achive 15m