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Hurr1cane said:


so if the US never went there and left Saddam in charge things wold be better now? I think all this was going to happen in some form regardless but I respect your opinion.

Honestly I'd say yes, things would be better. yes this group ISIS could have still rose up but I doubt it would be as bad as it is now. You'd probably just end up with a civial war comparable to the Syrian war (which really only got worse because... well America yet again... go figure.) that would probably result in the government forces pushing this group back. But the problem is now, because the US went in, removed their leader and caused a massive poweshift, the forces will not be as strong, experienced and probably not as loyal, it just turns into a doomed senario.