fighter said:
Serious_frusting said:
swbf2lord said:
osed125 said:
Harsh but true.
Prayers don't help people, actions do.
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But the prayers can galvanize us into action, with the (at times) unseen hand of God, moving people to do things outside of what they find comfortable. I'll continue to pray for those in Iraq, and the whole of the Middle East. It's a very unstable region, and only God can change their hearts now.
What Serious_frusting said is in no way true. Ludicrous, and in a way, sad, but not true.
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Fine whilst you continue preying innocent men and woman are dying. It does not make you a good person being religious. Being a good person makes you a good person. The people dying are the people in the army and in the affected nations. Tell all the children who have lost pairents that you did your part by preying and listen to what they have to say about it.
Religion was/is just another form of government. I aint going to prey to david cameron.
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"But the prayers can galvanize us into action, with the (at times) unseen hand of God, moving people to do things outside of what they find comfortable."
exactly, the problem with religion is not spirituality itself, it is the social norms that are either described in or derivated from the book
and ultimately it replaces the natural values when zealotry is rewarded (paradise) and rebellion is punished (hell) to the extent that you have to "help" your fellow men, and especially the women, to follow the proper rules and correct their behavior and beliefs.
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I think James says it best in chapter 2.
"14 What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone? 15 Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, 16 and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
17 So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless."
James 2:14-17
