| Devil_Survivor said:
Stop calling the Gamecube a failure. It made Nintendo tons of money. |
Nintendo expected to ship 51 Million GameCubes by 2005 when they launched it....and it didn't even reach half of that. They also wanted to expand their audience from the N64, and the audience actually shrunk. Support from 3rd Parties dwindled even further due to the lack of cooperations with Nintendo on the hardware.They made money because of the fact that Gamecube was profitable upon launch; however, recall what Iwata said prior to the launch of Wii. He clearly stated that if all Wii did was sell less than GameCube, then it would be a failure. "GameCube" numbers, despite being profitable, is a mark for failure according to Iwata, he set the bar that low for failure. Sure, some goals aren't met for many companies, and many gadgets sell below their forecasts, but expecting 51 Million and only selling 21 million is a HUGE failure in terms of forecasted vs actual. Although Microsoft lost money during their Xbox 1 days, they still created an audience larger than the audience for a console from a Game Industry veteran, and that Xbox audience expanded to the 360. I enjoyed the Gamecube, had a few must haves, but it was still a failure, me enjoying the console doesn't change the fact.
| Hedra42 said:
And I say again, I get the difference between. We can't blindly assume these figures are shipped, because Nintendo have reported sold-through figures before. Proof from last month: "Nintendo has given us confirmation that Mario Kart 8's global sell-through is approximately 2 million in less than a month, as announced by Genyo Takeda speaking on behalf of Nintendo President Satoru Iwata." http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/06/27/2-million-copies-of-mario-kart-8-have-reportedly-been-sold So, for this month, are we actually 100% sure that someone at Nintendo said that these figures represent shipped to retailers? BEcause I've just gone through all documents and can't find it either way. I want to know from those who think it's sold-through, where they're getting their info from. If it is shipped, then I'm seeing a lot of apples and oranges being compared in this thread. |
Whenever someone gives "sell-THROUGH" values, that means it was sold to customers, not retailers. Takeda gave a Sold-through value on the 27th of June, so it was sold to customers at that time. Nintendo's Financial Reports are always shipped unless otherwise stated in press-releases, because that's how it has always been. If you don't believe me, then consider this: How could Nintendo have sold both approximately 2 million and 2.8 million to customers for roughtly the same time period, how does that make any sense? We're talking about Q1, which ended on the 30th of June. Takeda confirmed 2 million to customers (sell-through) on the 27th, the 2.8 million value was given up to the 30th, does anyone honestly expect they sold the rest of 700-800K in only 3 days? No, they have shipped 2.8 million to retailers (sold-in) and approximately 2.0 million were sold to customers (sell-through). How much is it now? Well, if we assume the usual Mario Kart legs, it probably sold less than last month, 200K +/- for all of July.
