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TheLastStarFighter on 29 July 2014
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DerNebel said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
DerNebel said:

Sidetracking, yeah right...

The PS2 is extremely relevant to this, do you seriously believe that the PS1 would have dropped 50% in FY00 had the PS2 not been available? Also your "people went the Wii from to PS360" point as a reason for the Wiis drop is ridiculously weak, the Wii was always aimed at a completely different audience from the PS360.


I'm just glad you agree that PS1 and Wii have very similar sales curves, with Wii having about 10 million more units sold in year 2-3 and PS1 having about that same number sold extra from year 8 onward.  But about 94% of sales are virtually identical.  You show me stats that Wii owners and PS360 owners are mutually exclusive, and I will agree with you.

Further, as of August 2008 19% of American PS2 owners had purchased a Wii, 18% had purchased a 360 and 10% had a PS3 according to NDP.  In case you're bad at math, that means that around 10 million of the 15 million Wii owners (66%) at that time had come from a PS2 background.  You can continue to live in a dream world where you think most gamers are devoutees to a particular brand, that PS360 and Wii buyers are seperate entities and that the main people who picked up a Wii were soccer moms and grandparents, but the truth is the mass market of gaming is regular people who have little brand attachment and want the latest thing.  Those people loved the Wii when it was flashy and new, just like they loved PS2 when everyone had one.  Those same people picked up PS360's when the price came down, COD became the rage and HDTV became affordable.  Most of those people also haven't picked up an 8th gen system yet, with nothing really grabbing the public's attention fully.

We don't. You even described yourself how different the sales curves were, the PS1 sold 10 million systems after year 8, the Wii will be lucky to sell maybe 2 million more after that year. Also how about you prove your theory to me, that the same people that loved the PS2 later went to the Wii and then to the PS3/360, I mean you do realize that it's a widely accepted fact that the Wiis success was largely thanks to the system opening new markets, right?

And regarding that study, which is probably as accurate as the one that suggest that almost 50% of PS4 owners never owned a PS3, if you want to be a smartass and use math on me, you should at the very least be able to check the right numbers. As of August 2008 the PS2 had sold 42.5 million units in the US, meaning that about 8 million of the about 12 million Wiis in the US had come from PS2...you know, in case you're bad at math.

Finally this has nothing to do with brand allegiance it is a simple matter of appeal, the Wiis library was entirely different from the PS2s or PS3/360, why would the same person go from GTA San Andreas on PS2 to Wii Fit on Wii to Cod on PS3/360? And why would that happen in large percentages? You scream mass market here, mass market there, but the fact is that the mass market is not just one huge group of people with a hivemind that can be swayed, there are always different segments in every market. The soccer moms or grandparents that, you can deny that as long as you want, made up a huge part of the Wiis audience, didn't suddenly realize that they need some more FPS's in their life and thus went and bought a PS3/360, that's ridiculous.

lmao, this just keeps getting better.  BTW, 8/12 is still 66%. That calculation is the "math" part.  lol.  I guess you weren't alive during the Wii craze.  It was gamers that were driving it.  And yes, many of the people who love COD right now were wowed by Wii Sports back then.  Even many of the bashers of Wii in this thread are saying they bought it and it sat there and collected dust...but they still bought it and since their on this site I assume they are gamers and likely owners of a non-Nintendo system.

And my main point remains the same.  The sales path of PS1 and Wii are 95% exactly the same.  If you consider 95% the same to be nothing alike...there truly is no hope for you and you are blind to facts.