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Nintentacle on 26 July 2014
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TheJimbo1234 said:
Nintentacle said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Why will they become more competitive? You are assuming all have an equal distribution of good game libraries that grow....which may not be true, especially when 2 have less power - the wiiU having the least (and very little in modern terms). 

The WiiU adds nothing to the market, hence the poor sales. Anything else does the same or better multiplayer. All it consist of is Nintendo games. This alone will shift a few million units as Nintendo fans want to play sequels no matter what. However, does the WiiU attract new customers? From what I have seen, it does not. This is why I doubt it will sell 1.5m again this holiday. People have other options, the WiiU is now stocked is less places, and I beleive that most people who want a WiiU already own it. 

I'll just present my points quickly to help the argument, and then get the hell out of here:

1. The Xbox One and PS4 don't add much to the market either. PS4 has an 110-120k baseline as of late, Xbox One and Wii U have been holding close to 60k for a while. That's a lot closer than the 5th, 6th, and 7th gens.

2. That is not a good reason to doubt it can do 1.5 million this holiday. In 2013, Wii U did 1.6 million throughout November and December with more places having stock (Maybe) and Super Mario 3D World. 

This year, Mario Kart 8 pushed the baseline up for at least the rest of the year, Smash Bros. has more selling power than 3D World, the stock problem isn't large enough to take a huge effect, and Wii U is up YOY (Even with the new competition), so I have no clue why you think Wii U can't reach 1.5 million units this holiday.

The Xbone and PS4 add more than the WiiU simply on terms of power allowing for innovation, with the PS4 being on top. Everyone I know who owns a PS4 is impressed with the exclusives, and those with the xbone are dissapointed. People always want a jump in gameplay and graphics from one gen to the next along with new IPs - the wiiU is the least favourable option when it comes to either of those points.

The WiiU was up against brand new consoles that always take a few months to pick up after the initial burst of sales. Now people have more of an idea on what is on offer in the market place and I strongly doubt many gamers who have not invested into a console will opt for the WiiU over the other 2. As I said, why would they? Unless you want to play Nintendo games, the wiiU offers nothing, and most Nintendo fans already own the WiiU.

MK8 pushing sales up from now to Dec? Really? It has already dropped to 60k. In a month it will probably be back down to ~35k as it has been since Christmas.

1. More powerful hardware doesn't cause innovation anymore. Sure, there can be more content in the game, but what kind of new gameplay can you come up up with that couldn't be scaled down on the PS360?

2. No one is opting for the Wii U over the other two, that isn't the point of the console. It's a secondary console. You get PS4/XBO/PC for Third Party games and their exclusives, and a Wii U if you like Nintendo games.

3. If most Nintendo fans owned a Wii U, that would mean more than half of all Wii U's to be sold have already been sold. Where do you get that fact from? Do you really expect Wii U to sell less than 13.4 million units?

4. I'll bet on that one. I say Wii U won't get to 35k until at least 2015.