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VanceIX said:

And that was all my point. Nintendo essentially controlled the company, but they didn't have 100% ownership, so not completely first party. Monolith Soft was still a public company when it released Xenoblade Chronicles, not a subsidary as it became in 2011. To each his own though, like I said. My definition for first party is different from yours. 

While I do see your point im curious as to how you view the games insomniac, media molecule and sucker punch made for Sony are labelled. Everyone considers them Sony IPs but the companies were never owned by sony when many of them were made, in fact littlebigplanet was shopped around to Nintendo before Sony gave them the money.