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Machiavellian on 21 July 2014
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vivster said:
phaedruss said:


1. The changes were not as easy to implement as you seem to think they were, though not impossible but they probably did set them back from where they wanted to be at launch.

2. No one is "performing fellatio" but it's good that MS listened to their consumers. Every company does things in their own interest.

3. Good, so what?

4. That should be assumed yes, but sometimes companies do stupid things, it's great that MS actually listened unlike most companies.

You seem to mistake "having to forcefully remove their favorite features to save their sales" with "listening".

You can't tell me that MS did want to remove everything because they like their customers so much. You can't tell me that they're happy about the changes they were forced to make. That's not "listening". That's grudgingly bowing to the market.

Actually yes, MS did want to remove Kinect because they like their customer so much.  Without customers there are no sales so if your customer does not like something that increase the cost of your console, seems smart to remove it.  Did this guy also do the same type of article when Sony had to take out a lot of hardware from the Original fat PS3 when they released in Europe.  Is this guy going to produce a video on the features promised by Sony but have not been delivered yet.

So let me get something straight.  People have stated they are not interested in TV, they do not want motion gaming and that they want MS to concentrate on games and games that appeal to core gamers.  MS remove Kinect as a bundle.  They have not spoken a word on TV integration for a while.  MS closed down their TV/Entertainment studio.  MS is hiring more developer for improving their hardware and also to their 1st party studio.  Basically MS is doing what everybody said they should do but now the goal post has changed and we consider this as MS lying.

You know what this rant sound like.  You only have to cruise NG4 to see it all the time.  Someone who is pro Sony make these types of rants all the time.  Instead of looking at how a huge company like MS had to shift gears and recognize they were on the wrong path, the Sony fans are looking to turn such maneuvers into something bad.  Politicians do this all the time.  Its interesting how effective such blatant posturing as this video is have people agreeing with it.

This guy rants on about how MS stated Kinect is integral to the X1 experience and there is no doubt that was the way MS was going.  Since this is not what consumers want they had to remove that integration.  People who do not understand software just do not understand how big an undertaking MS probably had to do to remove a lot of the hooks that were only Kinect and rewrite it so it can be done with the controller.  Making changes like that probably had MS throw out a lot of code and start from the beginning.  I know from a number of projects I have done where the customer changed their mind, it was easier to start over than introduce a lot of bugs trying to remove or add in new features.

 

With that said where is the lying part.  This part I do not get.  If a product isn't selling well its up to the vendor to offer the product in a way that will sell.  So what this guy is saying is that a company cannot drop unimportant features that the consumer does not want.  A product cannot be refocused to what consumers want.  I would assume if anyone would agree with this guy then they probably would have the same mentality towards the PS3 within its lifecycle.