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S.T.A.G.E. said:
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


They jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon to try and undercut Blu Ray's progress. You know...what MS usually does. When someone ventures out and does something they attach themselves to a neighboring brand and either help them or buy them to use their products against the enemy ::Cough::Sega, Nokia, Project Natal::Cough:: Toshiba should never have sided with MS unless HD-DVD was the main format of the Xbox 360. A wasted venture. MS only used to them to distract the crowd for a moment and watch the ship fall. Of course...MS has no remorse about using them.

"Relying on Microsoft: Toshiba thought the Xbox was the right answer to the PS3/Blu-ray combo. In studio pitches it probably sounded reasonable. But Microsoft's support for HD DVD was tepid - like their support for anything non-Microsoft - and the optional Xbox HD DVD player never generated the volumes Toshiba hoped for."

HD-DVD Post Mortem

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/hd-dvd-post-mortem-why-did-toshiba-fail/294

"To Sony's credit Sony's key strategic move was to bundle Blu-ray into the PS3. That cost them hundreds of millions of dollars as the price of the PS3 didn't recover costs. It also delayed their entry into the market, giving the loss-making Xbox a valuable head start."

Of course, even HDNet agrees with my sentiments. Of course, their risk was later rewarded.


MS going HD-DVD was only obvious because bluray was from Sony side back then and especially the format wars weren't finished. So if it happened to be HD-DVD Sony would have lost even more money than it was doing back then. This is not "typical MS", just a decision to go for the other medium.

Sadly, the worse format (Java, big big *sigh*) won...


Yeah...the worse format won. That makes so much sense. I am just thankful that we don't have an all digital console (because the market just isnt ready yet) and Sony offered an upgradable format that can go from 50GB to 100GB or more (which can stretch the advantage of Blu Ray from one console to the next). The very strength which is why Sony was called to the gaming industry in the first place. A strength is a strength. MS doesn't know what they want when it comes to format outside of DRM locked digital gaming. Sorry, I'm not completely on board yet. I don't want consoles to go to the way of the PC. Of course all consoles have DRM, but not enough to ruin the party for console gamers at the current moment.

What? Now you are getting confused, STAGE. I was only comparing HD-DVD with bluray, without *any* gaming context and the format war was years ago... Don't know how you want to translate this to now.