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Captain_Tom said:
Puppyroach said:
Captain_Tom said:

 

-The surface tablet was a great idea, but they announced it a year before it came out.  By the time they released it there were other better and cheaper Windows 8 alternatives.  Tablets aren't new, Apple found how to make them popular and MS only jumped on the band wagon when they saw other's make money.

 

-It's the same thing with the Windows Phone.  They doubted smartphones until Apple made them work, and then jumped on the bandwagon again.

-They have been in the gaming industry by default, not by choice  (Developers know most people have Windows).  However instead of capitalizing on Window's gaming success, they got greedy when they saw the PS One's success.  The original Xbox was a "Me Too!" device that had more crap thrown on it (Like the Surface and Windows Phone).

They don't create markets, they leech off them.  Almost every other tech giant I can think of created a few revolutionaty fields they continue to compete in till this day.

- I have owned ALOT of tablets, and none of them comes close to the Surface in quality. MS actually worked with tablets long before Apple entered the market: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Tablet_PC.  What you are talking about is packaging, Apple made tablets popular by creating an image around them. MS primarily made the software but it just goes to show that they have been dedicated to this area for a very long time.

Yeah MS made tablets, and they were heavy, weak garbage.  iOS is exactly what people wanted.  Maybe not you, but most people.  It is not just the image lol because android tablets also destroy surface in sales.

- Once again, you are missing that MS has beenin the smartphone/PDA bussines longer than Apple or Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone. And btw, they bought Nokias phone division! That is not leeching, that is commitment to the industry.

Again you don't get the difference.  They tried some crappy abomination no one wanted, and then Apple/Google stepped in and made something good.  Then, once they saw what worked they copied it as best they could while adding a few unimportant.

- In what way was the original XBox a "me too"-device? It was the first console with a built in harddrive, they revolutionzed online gaming with XBL and offered broadband out of the box. They also started years befored, by making the operating system for Dreamcast, just as how Sony got into the industry by first collborating with Nintendo. So by your way of reasoning, Sony are leechers aswell?

The PS2 came out nearly 2 years before the Xbox and had the option of an HDD.  Otherwise the Xbox was the same thing except with a unified online component (The only original thing they came up with).

On the other hand the PSOne was the first console to really advertise gaming to Adults (Something Xbox copied like crazy).  You can thank Sony for correctly asserting that there are adults out there who want mature experiences.

I do not question that MS copies ideas from others (everyone does) but seeing at things like Kinect, they are also pushing the industry forward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nlk6HhDpDw.

Kinect was the correct(ish) implementation of the Eye Toy.  It's too bad they never followed through on it.

 



This. Microsoft never pushed anything. They just brought PC gaming to consoles and took the Kinect after Sony turned down the project.