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DogRemag said:
Machiavellian said:
nitekrawler1285 said:

They can present the machine that way all they like.  The Xbox market see themselves as gamers.  That will be the use case for it.  There is even some argument to be made that trying to make it an entertainment console is to blame for it's current sales.  

I understand their goal. I think their execution is flawed.  If they think a 4-500 dollar entertainment box is gonna win the enterainment console connect to tv then I think they are even crazier than I thought.  Especially with so many competitors like Apple/Google/Amazon in the 35-100 range.  

I think the strategy you mentioned for the future makes sense. Their current one.... not so much.

The thing people have to understand is that usually a business like MS have 5 to 10 year plans for products.  The first iteration is not what will be the end result of such a product.  Yes, the X1 is 4 to 500 bones but the end result will be something totally different with a different price point.  The build of the X1 OS shows a forward thinking in design.  With everything running from a VM, it will be much easier for MS to upgrade the hardware and still keep compatibility even if they change to a different infrastructure.  This would also work in a cloud type of system like Playstation Now as MS could spin up those VMs easily over Azure.

I personally do not know MS gameplan but I can definitely say that they have one even if they had to scrap their first one and redo it.  The end result is not going to be what we see today and the X1 will be a totally different product in 2 years.

And people will still ignore it.Nothing you said equates to a quality gaming machine.Just all hype,speculation and unrealistic expectations as usual.Same thing was said about Kinect.

Who said anything about quality.  The current PS4 and X1 are already quality gaming machines.  

Case in point would be the PS3 and 360.  Neither of those consoles are even close to being the same as when they started.  Both MS and Sony has add a lot of value to those systems over the years that have made them much better products.  The competition between MS and Sony have edged them both and sharpened Sony the most this generation.  Both companies services have improved because of competition amoung each other and this have only helped the consumer.  Do people ignore the PS3 now compared to how it stated.?? Is the PS3 and even the 360 as value propositions much better than when they were released.  Are you really thinking this through or are you just knee jerking a reaction?