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COLD_COBRA_ said:
Most Nintendo fans on here think it will outsell ps4 ltd. So that.

Nobody says that. Either you're making that up or by "here" you mean those crazy ass fanboys on IGN and the likes, and even then those are few and far and between.

The general conscious is that the WiiU would end up with little sales compared to the competition. But I think in order for it to be considered successful, it has to pass atleast the GC. Business-wise matters to an extent as well, but most people don't care about that. GameCube made a profit while the PS3 probably never broke even, but people often consider the GC as a failure while the PS3 as a success.