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VanceIX said:

You yourself said that Infamous has better textures, when it clearly doesn't. Now you're saying that textures are another thing altogether? OK.

Infamous may have better textures but I say that's attributed to material layering ... You need more than texture quality to make surfaces look better and you still don't understand. 

And you're completely wrong on the lighting, period. There are so many mods that make use of reflections and lighting so that all of it is seamless in the environment. If you think that some of the best ENBs combined with more realistic lighting mods "look like shit", then you obviously have not played Skyrim in its full glory. On a 4K monitor, ENB, realistic lighting mods, the game looks fantastic in ways that Infamous and Ryse cannot compare.

How am I completely wrong about the lighting ? Do yourself a favour and start explaining ... Mods can only go so far when it's clear that there are limitations in place of the awful blinn-phong shading model. You can only go so far using blinn-phong when it's quite apparent that metal's are more suited towards using cook torrance specular highlights. Hence why I said that the lighting in skyrim is shit.

And yes, I said cinematic games, not linear. I said this because the prettiest games are all cinematic linear games (other than Infamous SS, which has tons of diffuculty rendering energy-based lighting when a player is not directly looking at objects, resulting in annoying pop-ins. Not to mention that Sony utilised low-quality textures in order to acheive the lighting and reflections.).

How exactly does infamous second son have "tons" of difficulty with energy conserved lighting when it's framerate is usually north of 30fps ? Pop-ins are few and far in between compared to last generation systems and just how exactly are the textures low quality when a modded skyrim doesn't even take the cake ? 

And another thing that you seem to convinently forget is that Second Son runs at 30fps, compared to the 60fps+ Skyrim can run, even with mods, which provides a much more stable experience overall.

What does "FRAMERATE" have to do with "GRAPHICS" ? 

Like I said, you can't compare Skyrim w/ mods and Second Son. Second Son is locked to 1080p @ 30fps, while Skyrim can go up to 4K @ 120fps, with MUCH better textures and amazing lighting, especially considering it's a last-gen game.

What a lie ... 

Oh why the hell am I even arguing with you if you aren't going to make a valid point!

Do me a favour and get your eyes seriously checked ... PLEASE! Mind you this is coming from a PC gamer too.