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vivster said:
IkePoR said:
vivster said:
No Franchise should ever have to end. There will always be fans of the games that crave for more. Those who stop to enjoy a game can just stop playing it.

It's a stupid proposition and a slap in the face of any fan of a series.

As long as a game remains relevant, stays true to what it is and delivers an enjoyable experince, there's no reason for a franchise to stop.  Call of Duty, Kirby, and Street Fighter to name a few all do these things well and have remained popular.

Just because a frachise has lost it's way - Final Fantasy, Resident Evil - doesn't mean the franchise needs to stop.  It means developers need to be more creative and passionate about what they're creating and focus on what made those franchises hosehold names.

The game doesn't have to stay true to anything. As we've seen countless times, it's completely subjective what is and what is not true to a franchise. I for one think FF stayed very true to its roots and those pseudo fans don't know what they are talking about.

Even if the majority thinks the game isn't worth it anymore, there is no reason to call for it to be stopped. It's practically declaring that the creators shouldn't have freedom anymore.

As you said, creators need their creative freedom. They can't have that if "fans" are claiming that a game isn't what it should be. That's the way we got to this AAA trot where developers create based on what they think players want instead of what they want.

There are countless of games out there. If a player thinks his franchise isn't fun anymore he can just stop playing it, but what about those people who still liked it and maybe even embraced the changes? A changed game isn't hurting anyone, a stopped, or even worse, a franchise that let's their creators no freedom anymore is hurting a lot of people.

Final Fantasy was turn based, non linear, strategic, and gave the player full control of their party.  13 did none of those things, things that made Final Fantasy... Final Fantasy.  You're the first person I've heard say it stayed true to its roots - SE could have called the game "Bravely Default" and no one would have questioned if it was Final Fantasy.

We agree on creative freedom.  However, the idea behind creative freedom and giving the fans what they desire isn't as black and white as we may think.  It's somewhere in the middle, where you don't always want to completely overhaul a franchise but you also don't remain stagnant.  Metriod Prime is a great example of this, with the Prime series basically just changing the perspective from side scrolling to first person; the series didn't really change.

I agree that it isn't hurting anyone but you could argue anything done to any game doesn't hurt anyone.  You talked about slaps in the face, taking a beloved franchise and altering it to the point of it being unrecognizable is as big of a slap in the face to the fans as you can get.  



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