I honestly believe gaming PCs are becoming niche market

[Scoobes]

Intrinsic said:

Scoobes said:

That kind of depends on what NVidia mean by high-end. They could be including anything down to a GTX 770 (which they describe as "high performance", could even be a 760 which they describe as "powerful") which can be bought for $330, up to a Titan Z at $1000+. The GTX 770 alone would sell far more than the other products for the sole reason it's cheaper (check the Steam hardware survey and you'll also see it's one of the better performing DX11 cards).

That completely throws off your average of $750. Then you have to remember that the money a consumer pays for that card is split between NVidia, the card manufacturer (e.g. Gigabyte, EVGA) and the retailer.  Basically, you're calculations are pretty far off base.

Thank you. Of course my calculations are far off base. I was actually being really really really generous. Its easy to spin things around and look for loop holes than make thing seem a lot better than they actually are and that is why i chose to be somewhat unrealistic. You can say it depends on what nvidia considers as high end.... but when looking for a real average, we are supposed to add up the individual prices of all the dedicated GPUs nvidia makes then didvide that by the number of GPUs available. If you did that. Even taking $150 gpus into onsideration all up to the $3000 GPUs, you will see that you end up with an average much higher than my $750. And hen you look at sales, i didnt take a ton of things into consideration cause I wanted their sales to be really really high.

Even at those really really high sales, we are still looking at less than 2M sales per year..... in reality for high end dedicated gpus this is actually way less than that. And that is the point i was trying to make. YOY growth doesn't mean anything cause its not really painting the full picture. And fot all you know, they may have sold 750K dedicated GPUs last year then sell 1M GPUs this year and be trumpetting YOY sales growth. That doesn't mean shit.

If they "really" were doing so groundbreakingly well, they wouldn't be giving percentages... they would be showing off hard cold numbers and saying we sold this and that million GPUs last year bla bla bla.... whenever you see a company talking more about percentages or YOY sales instead of just giving hardcold numbers... then you know they are hiding something. Its literally the business defination of the word "spin".

The average you've taken is unrealistic as sales of the lower end chips will be a lot more than the high end versions. The average cost of a consumer purchased Nvidia GPU is in no way going to be >$750. The sales of GPUs above $500 is niche, so the actualy average would be relatively low by comparison, meaning more GPUs sold. 

But regardless, how is 2 million discrete GPUs in 3 months a bad thing? Considering upgrade cycles of anywhere between 1-4 years and the growth of embedded GPUs, the revenue numbers and discrete GPU growth is actually pretty good.