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zorg1000 said:

I'm saying that a device playing 2009 spec PC graphics in 2017 is hardly what would be called "insanely powered".  It would be powerful for a handheld, but as a successor to Wii U would be considered weak.

I doubt Nintendo has any plans on making an ultra powered console. The Wii U successor will likely be just a moderate jump, something that is capable of playing PS4/Xone multiplats. There is really no need for Nintendo franchises to look much better than they currently do. Would games like Super Mario 3D World or Mario Kart 8 really benefit that much by having vastly more powerful hardware?

Im guessing the next Nintendo platforms will be unified with the same architecture, similar specs and able to play the same games. The handheld version will be somewhere between Vita & Wii U in terms of power and the home console version will be somewhere between Wii U & PS4 in terms of power. Devices that can be sold at a relatively low price with a slight profit, 2-3 years from now.

What on earth are you talking about?  MK8 looks vastly superior to MKWii thanks to the vastly more powerful Wii U.  SM3DW is pretty good looking, but could be much better if Nintendo put in more effort.  And we won't even talk about the visual benetfits for franchises like Zelda, Metroid or Xenoblade.  With Nintendo's sales lagging behind last gen by a very significant margain and a common complaint from the general populace being that Nintendo is just up-rezzing titles like NSMB to HD and not doing anything new, clearly there is a need for Nintendo's games to look better.  In the past, titles like SMB3, DKC or SM64 were considered visual stunners.  They need to be this way again, and the benefits have been shown by MK8, whose graphics are very good, surprised many and has been a runaway hit.

Your idea that Nintendo hardware should only be a little bit better than the previous gen is based soley on Wii and now Wii U.  Nintendo tried it the first time with Wii and had a runaway hit.  They did it again with Wii U because of Wii and it failed.  I would expect Nintendo to do something very different for the Thwii.

I actually think they are going to do something powerful with Thwii.  PS4 has proven that customers will pay for a powerful system as long as you hide the cost in a subscription.  High-cost systems were avoided by Nintendo before because they didn't want to lose money.  But now they can sell a Nintendo Network + and build a pricey system and not lose money.

There are rumors that Nintendo is actually looking at something very powerful with multiple secondary screen support.  I think this is very likely.  A titan+ level graphics card with Gamepad-like devices as the main input for all players.  The next handheld could also sub in and interact with the home system.  I think this is more likely than a high-powered portable being the home system replacement.