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DerNebel on 30 June 2014
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Jay70sgamer said:
binary solo said:

Really? Appealing to whom? And more appealing than what's already come out for Wii U. We already have the 2D Mario, and the 3D Mario, and the Mario Kart, and the Donkey Kong, and the Luigi. That suite of games should have already pushed Wii U well past 10 million units, what makes you think all the appealing Nintendo games coming out in the next 18 months will have any greater effect than the games that came out in Wii U's first 18 months? Software sells hardware no doubt, but Nintendo's software does not appeal to a big enough audience, and this is amply demonstrated by the fact that Nintendo released many brilliant games on GC but it still sold poorly. And Nintendo is more or less repeating the suite of games that were the top sellers on GC, and yet people are expecting a different result? The old skool Nintendo franchises were not what sold Wii, it was the Wii Fits, and the Wii Sports, and the Wii Plays that sold the Wii. The old Nintendo franchises merely benefitted immensly from that hugely expanded install base. SMG launched when Wii was already at 14 million. SSBB launched when Wii was over 20 million. MK Wii launched when Wii was over 24 million. NSMB Wii launched when Wii was over 56 million.

For all that you wrote ...I have a simple answer mario kart 8..... fastest selling mario kart game ever on any nintendo console .......2 million in less than a month on a user base of 6.17 million and the wii u mario kart bundle is sold out in all the major cities and stores on the east coast look it up (gamestop,target,best buy) so your notion that appealing software doesn't move hardware or that it won't move hardware or hasn't is very flawed lol and also wii u didn't appeal  to most people was because there was not much software and no advertising  the first 9 months to 12 months now that issue is resolved it's now a lot of software available and a lot of people were waiting for mario kart 8 ...now the system is more appealing and will continue to be more appealing in which software sells hardware ....

1. Mario Kart 8 is not the fastest selling Mario Kart at all, Mario Kart Wii and 3DS sold over 2 million in 4 weeks easily and Mario Kart SNES and 64 sold a million in 4 weeks in Japan alone.

2. You completely misunderstood his post, he doesn't say anywhere that Nintendo games don't move hardware, he said that they won't push enough, because they don't appeal to enough people. You point out MK8 as if it in any way supports your point when in reality it really doesn't at all. So the bundles are sold out in some places, and? That literally tells us nothing, if we don't have any solid numbers. What we know is that the Wii U has already fallen below 10k in Japan again, that it sold just over 60k in May in the US, that Mario Kart is already dropping steadily in the UK and, if we put some trust in Vgchartz numbers, that the Wii U is overall going down pretty fast again after Mario Kart.

None of those indicate that the Wii U is now more appealing to the general customer, that the Wii U has a bigger chance of doing better than the GC now, that the Wii Us issues are now resolved (I mean lol, really?) or anything like that. If at all Mario Kart 8 perfectly illustrates his point, Nintendo franchises sell great to the Nintendo fans, who are the ones buying the Wii U anyway, but still only have a limited fanbase and will thus never be the things that will sell more than 20-25mil Wii Us lifetime.