Will Religion ever be illegal in America?

[o_O.Q]

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

o_O.Q said:

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

o_O.Q said:

...lol are you sure you read what I posted? When did I say christianity causes slavery?

A need for cheap labor causes slavery in quite sure no one denies that 

For someone who is wrong quite often you're very aggressive lol calm done brother have a brandy or something 

"considering that Christianity was one of the tools used by the slavers in the first place to pacify the enslaved and also to justify the act of slavery in the first place 

You might want to research that 

Another interesting tidbit is that the bible does not abhor slavery "

Are you sure you want to do this? 

I mean you stated that Christianity was used by slavers as pacification, justification for slavery you are implying causation.

Not to mention, you haven't provided evidence, instead you've said there are many written accounts, despite the fact that you haven't cited any of that vast amount of information.

You also say that Christinaity doesn't abhor slavery implying that it supports it rather, than understanding the fact that around the time that the bible was written, slavery was commonplace and not seen as an injustice for the most part. Its not like the Bible advocates slavery.

And even if it did, free will exists, the fact that people are claiming to reject it and religion in general purports that idea, so it stands to reason that humans can make a choice to accept whatever values they want and if they commit crimes in the name of those values then its the person who commited the crimes and accepted the values who is the problem and not the values themselves.

And FYI, this: "This worst part of this argument is that few on either side are rational or even understand what these terms mean.

Fallacies and generalizations all over the place, its frankly disgusting, but don't mind me I'm just commenting." was in response to the entire thread including you, not just your petty squabble. I mean germans killed Jews at one point in history, should we punish all germans because of it? 

Uh... So therefore you acknowledge that I didn't say that... Ok that's good what I posted was quite clear whatever further inferences you make are all on you

As for evidence that's what Google is for

Ironically, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=burden+of+proof

And finally the point about free will leads back to what I just said about values influencing behavior 

Sure you may have free will but if you're following values with the understanding that should you choose to reject them you will be punished and that those values are the only way to live your life

If you do not have enough mental fortitude to decide your own values, then the one who taught you those values are responsible, Religion isn't institincual

You're going to be coerced into making certain decisions based on those values that should be obvious... So ultimately what I'm saying is that as a theist no you do not have free will under certain conditions 

Said values do not have a will that acts upon anything, especially since Religion is subjective, open to interpretation, yes you can fault someone for their interpretations and being cooerced. Not to mention you always have free will as long as you understand the situation you are in.

For example, Religion A says something like "an adulter will be punished by death" and you interpret it as you should kill your wife for cheating or go to hell etc. The prospect of hell incentivizes the action of killing your wife, but you still have to accept it and valuate what is more important to you.

You're blaming the gun, not the shooter.

EDIT: Not to mention, another person whose reads the same line and interprets that a cheating wife will be punished by god or whatever and they do nothing.

Not only are you blaming the gun, but you're the one that loaded it with bullets in the first place.

At this point I'm not even really sure what we're talking about now but it seems to me though that you're insulting theists 

"If you do not have enough mental fortitude to decide your own values"

That is the point of theism that a set of values is used by a set of people and sure there will be some differences in interpretation bur from what I've experienced for the most part the values are universal across a group