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oniyide on 23 June 2014
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tripenfall said:
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what is being saved? IMHO anything less than 40mil is a flop and i dont see WIi U getting near those numbers


Flop is a strong word for a console that sells 39 million.

Look at the Vita... Sony would love to have a "flop" like that!

so what is then? isnt that around what N64 sold? and that is considered a flop

35mil? i dont think it will reach that


N64 sold 32.9 million and while that is not anything like other consoles can you really consider it a flop?

I think right now if you offered Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony (Vita) that figure for lifetime sales they would probably take it....

yeah i would. Becasue that has been the general consensus for years. Are we going to move goal posts and change the definitions because we dont want to call a console we may like a flop? Naw i dont think it works that way. Not for a major console. It doesnt matter what anyone would take. Most would take getting peeded on over getting crapped on but it would still be considered bad either way. 

But the fact remains that Nintendo turned a nice profit on N64 and even GameCube so IMO that isn't a flop.

Also we may indeed have to adjust goalposts, in particular in handheld gaming. With IOS/Android now a major force in portable gaming there is no way 3DS and Vita will move as many units as their predecessors. I remember a few years ago where many were predicting a Microsoft handheld was in the works, in the current portable gaming scene that now seems unimaginable. Even Nintendo who have dominated handheld gaming for decades will be very wary of investing big amounts of cash for R&D and marketing of a new handheld console to succeed 3DS. 

Mark my words - Wii U and XBone will struggle to hit 40 million sales.

n64, maybe GC i doubt it. Again most of there profits from that time came from GBA, i wouldnt be surprised if they just broke even on GC. ive never read anywhere where they actually made money ON GC. or even N64 for that matter.

I dont think we need to adjust goalposts, we'll be adjusting all day. I never expected 3ds or Vita to do as good as their predeccesors, but when 3ds is trailing behind even GBA then thats kind of flopping smartphones or not.

Wii U will struggle to get to 30mil let alone 40. YOu might be low balling Xbone, at least that seems like a console that some people want to get.