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enditall727 on 19 June 2014
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padib said:
enditall727 said:

I dont mean to keep butting in on you and Rol's convo but your reply to him is a good enough reply that could've been to mine.

 

With that said.. Do you hear yourself? "metroid got trumped by bungies new ip"? Why would you try to bring up Destiny when you were originally talking about Halo? Halo is owned by MS and Bungee is not. Bungee is with Activision and is developing Destiny. 343 is the developer of Halo now. 

 

It seems like you're all over the place and tried to shift your argument to being about Destiny on the sly

 

And how exactly has the pack-in excuse been refuted? What you just said did not refute anything. Going by that logic, I guess we can say that if Wii Sports wasn't bundled with the Wii, it would have lost over 82 million hardware sales. This same logic would tell us that the only thing the Wii U really needs is Wii Sports 2.

I know who makes Halo, watch your quote trees.

The pack-in excuse is used against Nintendo all the time. It's pretty clear that Wii Sports, as much as it was bundled, helped sell consoles, and hte console helped sell Wii Sports. The bundle argument is not a solid one.


The pack in excuse is used against Nintendo ASWELL as Sony and Microsoft. It's not an exclusive excuse only used against Nintendo. 

 

Have you ever looked at an Uncharted 3 thread on the topic of sales? It is physically impossible to get through one without people talking about it being bundled. People talked about how Uncharted 1 was bundled with the 80gb ps3, lbp being bundled, Motorstorm 1 being bundled, Gran Turismo being bundled, Forza being bundled etc.

 

In Wii Sports case, i don't know why you even claim that it is an excuse. Everybody on planet earth knows that Wii Sports was pretty much bundled with every console. The Wii had PLENTY of Nintendo games tgat sold BEAUTIFULLY so who in their right mind would get bothered by the fact that Wii Sports was bundled?

 

The Wii Mote is what sold the Wii. Wii Sports barely helped anything. Wii Sports could've released on GC with the GC controller and wouldn't have sold anything remotely close to Wii Sports with the Wii Mote

 

And what you said to refute the pack-in excuse,was less solid than the bundle argument itself