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NightDragon83 said:
BeElite said:
NightDragon83 said:

Funny how when Sony announces bundles it's smart marketing, but when M$ does the same it's an act of desperation. And when Sony announces special deals with 3rd parties like early betas and exclusive bundles of certain games it's good developer relations, but when M$ does it it's "moneyhatting."

Its all moneyhatting, but theres a huge difference in a PS4 bundle where you save 10 on the game and MS giving away a brand new aaa game where we all know its due to desperation. 

So when Sony bundled MGS4 in their original $499 80GB SKU when the game launched, that wasn't an act of desperation?

Not sure where you were but when the PS3 had price cuts, a lot of people called out that Sony were desperate. They were!

You can't deny that unbundling Kinect and packaging big games for free is a sign of desperation. The sales figures prove that the X1 is struggling.