curl-6 said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
curl-6 said:
It's not just the generations gap though, it's also DX10/11 vs DX9.
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True, but I dont think the GPUs base power is good enough to take advantage of that to a noticable degree. The latest PC games use DX11 for tuly impressive effects like instanced vegetation, insane particle effects and tesselation. Titles like Metro Last Light come to mind, truly mind blowing stuff on display. These "true" Direct X11 effects need serious power.
I say this because my old 5670HD used to run Dirt2 at around 30fps(720p) in DX11 mode and that card has a decent performance boost over the Us rumoured 5550. Furthermore Dirt 2 is a 2009 DirectX11 game, the new stuff wont be as forgiving. DX11 is very demanding. My 7870HD which usually runs most games at 1080p60 was stuck at 28-29 fps with the Unreal Engine Elemental Demo. That demo is basically the first real use of DX11 as far as Im concerned. If Uncharted 4 and The Order are anything to go by that will be the new AAA standard and I dont see Wii U games achieving that in 720p.
Nintendo is smart to stick with a stylized art style, because then they can use subtle DX11 effects like geometry instancimg (blades of grass), cell shading and bloom to make Zelda U shine over obvious technical limitations. I know you probably wont believe me but a cell shaded Skyrim with bloom would look very close to Zelda. Again, I refer to Team Fortress and Left 4 Dead which run on the same engine.
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I feel I should point out that I am not in the same camp as Zero999. I'm not saying Wii U is closer in power to PS4 than PS3 or anything. I'm not saying it could do Uncharted 4 at 720p.
I simply believe it has the capacity to represent the same kind of improvement over PS3/360 that say, Wii did over PS2, or 3DS did over PSP.
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I agree with this and always have. To me it's just as silly to claim Wii U is inferior to PS3/360 as saying it is just as powerful or really close to PS4/X1. But people keep making these statements which is why the debate goes on. I personally think its like the Wii over PS2 improvement you said, but I guess that's not "extreme" enough for some. It has to be either one end of the spectrum...competing with the best console tech or crappier than last gen! Just silly.