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but vanguard was not MADE by SOE. it was made by Sigil and BOUGHT by SoE when it - did not do well- current active subscriptions are at ~50 thousand...

eq2 had well over triple that number at release after the first month.

Everquest 2 - NOW - is a quality title- at release, it had alot of the same problems that Vanguard has just less of them.

i played vanguard. it was not hard at all, and is decent to play with, if you have a higher end computer and 5 other friends you play with regularly. solo it sucked hard.


world of warcraft- is currently the most fun mmo out there- is it for everyone? no. (still 8.5 million people pay to play it)but of all the MMO's I have played or beta tested (in excess of 2 dozen) it is the most fun and had the highest level of "polish" of any mmo released so far.