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kowenicki said:

Again this isnt about the industry as a whole, you are way off piste in most of your posts here.  OF COURSE gaming is bigger than ever, bobody doubts that, and it will increase as years pass significantly.

But this whole thread is about the console business, nothing more.  Start another thread if you want to talk about the growth in gaming as an industry.

Dedicated handhelds dying definitely IS a bad thing... if you are Sony and especially Nintendo.

And despite your earlier posts I maintain this gen will be significantly smaller in hoem console sales than the previous gen.

 

I am trying to avoid going into too much detail cause it will be too long of an explanation. You are all over the place right now. Now you are saying this is solely about the console business, but in your original post you made a combined analysis of hardware sales in total that included "handhelds". 

Also, you keep saying that console gaming is dying too, even if only by saying its going to be smaller, but in reltion to what/when, and you have not shown one statistic to bolster that claim of yours thus far. It also makes no sense saying that so early into a new console generation if you have a minimalistic understanding of how the console business model works. In two years, the PS4/XBO will NOT cost $400, they could even be as low as $200 due to the cost saving architectures that both sony and ms have used this gen. The quicker they can bring prices down, the faster they can sell. History proves this. Yet you somehow are ignoring that fact.

If you look at predictions, you will see that I actually agree that this gen won't be as big as the last. However, I believe that over 200+M consoles would be sold by the time its all said and done. If this is shared primarily between the PS4/XBO, then be rest assured that console gaming has never been healthier. Cause with console gaming its not just about hardware sales. Its about revenue streams, thats the basis of the console business. Revenue streams. And this gen, carrying over from the last; there are way more revenue streams than ever before eg. PS+/XBL subscriptions, microtransactions, DLC...etc. This gen, if sony or MS only manage to sell 80M hardware units each, while overall it wil be less than all combined hardware sold in the previous gen; they will still end up generating MORE revenue combined at the end of the gen. And as a business (not as a consumer) that is the most important measure of growth and success in this specific business model. And I don't even think this wil be the case cause these consoles will drop in prices faster than the last gen.

As for handhelds, I will just come out and say that the only company really in an all out bind right now is nintendo. Easily dicernable if you just take certain facts into consideration. in 2013 alone, sony sold over 20M XPERIA phones. Maybe even more, being that it sold over 10M in just one quater. Nintendo doesn't make phones. But I agree, handheld decline is bad for business as far as nintendo and sony are concerned, but I really don't see this as a bad thing (unless you are nintendo) handheld gaming had never been a prominent revenue stream for sony anyways.

Sorry for the wall of text, believe it or not this was me actually trying to be as concise as possible. If you want more details and reasoning that guide my opinions I could do that, but I with this hope you can better understand where I am coming from.