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Soundwave on 30 May 2014
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padib said:
Soundwave said:

When this generation is done, Sony will have routed Nintendo in 3 out of 4 consecutive home console generations. 

And even in the one generation Nintendo "won", which required a miracle novelty to pull off, Sony may actually end up selling more PS3s than Wiis when all is said and done. 

"Lack of games" for Nintendo is actually apt, but what Nintendo fans never want to admit is that's from a lack of third party support. Nintendo never makes the console that third parties want, they always try to be cute and do it their way and end up paying the price for being stubborn. Mario/Zelda/Mario Kart/Smash do not appeal to enough people to win a console generation on their own. 

They won't even get the Wii U to 20 million. The differeniator for the first Wii was the casual Wii Sports/Fit crazes, but the above poster is correct, Nintendo is unable to repeat their success with that crowd now that there is a much more attractive gaming medium availble to give that type of audience their daily/weekly gaming fix -- smartphones/tablets. So that avenue has been cut off for Nintendo, now they're back to their usual GameCube like sales (worse actually).

If you're Sony it's very easy to beat up on Nintendo in the console business: 1.) Just sit back, wait for Nintendo to make some silly, arbitrarily strange decisions with their console 2.) make your own console with straight forward design decisions that the majority of the dev community backs 3.) beat up on Nintendo for the next 5-6 years. Nintendo is easy pickings for Sony, they always shoot themselves in the foot a couple of times with at least 2-3 stupid, completely unforced decisions each generation. 

I am a Nintendo fan and I admit that Nintendo home consoles don't get nearly as much 3rd party support as other home consoles.

However, Nintendo can sell consoles on their own, and don't need 3rd parties. The proof systems for that are Nintendo's portable line and the Wii. This thread has the data -> http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=183687

@underlined. You don't know that. You are speculating. It's much more clear, however, that Nintendo is able to sell to that market as they always have, again I will point you to the portable line and the Wii.

Your last paragraph is your personal fantasy. Nintendo makes their decisions based on the market they are aiming. You intend for Nintendo to aim a market which they don't intend to reach, and as such project what you believe are the best decisions to target that market on Nintendo's decisions while they are targeting another market. It's the same mistake repeated over and over on the internet.

The portable and home console markets are very different, equating one to the other is false. It would be like saying "well Sony should beat Nintendo with handhelds one of these days because they have no problem beating Nintendo's consoles". Which I'm sure you'd claim "no" to even though it's the same logic you're trying to push. These are different markets. 

And Sony has not just beaten Nintendo, they've quite frankly WHUPPED them in the console arena. Nintendo hasn't even made them sweat, I mean the PS1, 2, and 4 are going to run away from their Nintendo counterparts by a country mile and not even look back. 

The console market is more driven by older consumers in the household (usually the teenager of the house is the one who makes  the console choice IMO, the little 8 year old is just happy with anything that they can play LEGO/whatever on). 

Sony's been in the console business for basically 20 years now, and really they've had no problem dominating Nintendo here for basically 16-17 of the 20 years. The only blip on the radar was the 2006-09 spurt from Nintendo. This is not a "coincidence" anymore, this is not "Nintendo just needs to fix a few things" ... this is fairly consistent domination on Sony's part. I mean these console cycles aren't even *close*, it's not like the N64 sold 85 million and the PSOne at 100 million or GameCube at 90 million and PS2 at 150 million. PS4 is doing the same thing to the Wii U, blowing past it's 1 year lead like it was nothing. 

Nintendo really isn't much in the way of competetion for a Sony console the majority of the time. Whatever Sony's philosophy is for making a home console, it simply resonates with a global audience a heckuva lot more than Nintendo's vision.