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Frogger on 22 May 2014
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padib said:

spemanig said:

And my point stands that your point is flat. Nintendo doesn't have "a few years of market drought." They've had two whole decades of steady decline, only to be tempererily spiked by an intelligently orchestrated fad, and now the decline is back on schedule. I'm not critisizing their games. I love their games. I've owned almost every Nintendo console and I've play games from every system. I'm no stranger to their mass appeal, but mass appeal doesn't mean universal appeal and now that overstretched appeal is being outdone by more focused and direct western targeting appeal. They need to get with the program.

Let me give you a hint, the first game in the category you listed, in the top selling games of all time, is Uncharted 2 at rank #117  with 6.38m units.

In the meantime, the first gamecube game (obviously by Nintendo) ranks at #99 with 7m sold, that was Smash. This is Nintendo's rock bottom.

For the N64, the first ranks at #41, that's Super Mario 64 with roughly 12m units, when Nintendo was deserted by 3rd parties and plagued with the image of being 2nd best.

To point out, these were at a time when the total home console sales did not exceed 200m units (gen 6) and even 150m (gen 5). We are now in an industry that sells nearly 265m home console units (gen 7).

So, quick newsflash, Uncharted won't save Nintendo anytime soon. I'm not saying it doesn't have any value, ask Rol I personally suggested Uncharted many times for Nintendo, but the truth is that there are priorities for the company. First they need to nail their main course, only then can they wish to conquer uncharted territory.

No pun intended.


I chuckled, lol.

It doesn't matter, because most of the people buying Uncharted 2 aren't buying any of those Nintendo games, while most people buying Smash for the gamecube is buying every other Nintendo game you listed. There's an audience Nintendo isn't getting. I'm not saying Nintendo's IPs don't sell, I'm saying they don't sell to an increasingly larger market of gamers who would rather buy the console where they won't miss Uncharted than the one that won't miss Smash Bros.

The N64 only sold 30mil. The GCN only sold 20mil. The Wii U is on track to sell less.  Those sale numbers mean nothing if they aren't driving enough hardware. The Nintendo brand is sinking. Meanwhile Playstation brand is staying afloat because of the moderate sales of those western IPs. Western IPs that bring western  gamers who won't but the Wii U because they'll miss out on western games. Getting back what has become the vast magority of gamers isn't uncharted territory. We've been settled in for over a decade, but Nintendo is still only servicing the slowly dwindling reservation.