Kaz Hirai: 'PS4 hardware is already profitable'

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kowenicki said:

5% take up rate (maximum from sony's own figures).  Sounds like a flop to me. 

So what % should have Sony had in order to not be seen by you as a "Flop" than?

I mean what parameters are you wanting to measure this service against?

What market dynamic's are you defining success for such of this service to be @ in order for it to not be a flop?

Did Sony imply that the service is not doing well? No they stated the % to be variable at this stage of the service, the fact is it has to start somewhere and there is infact growth for the service, flops do not = growth, has it stayed flat? is there no growth?

You cannot have it both way's, if it was stagnant than that would be one thing, but its not so your point about it being a flop is pretty d@mn Moot, just because again you say it is does not mean it is. 

And Another thing, this is not aimed directly at just you, but i see many on this forum and other boards throw the word "flop" out there and , what is ironic, is many times these companies are selling Millions of said products not just in a year but can be in a sales Quarter !

in say book publishing when was the last time you heard about selling a million+ copy's of something a flop?  

in my opinion its being pretty d@mn pedantic to even bring up such a notion, but yet here we are..LOL