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You say you didn't like the wii because you saw it as a gimmick and there was a lot of shovelware.. Well I can tell you, the wii really is one of the best consoles ever made. It took gaming back to its roots and it had so many phenomenal titles. And if you're an RPG fan, the wii is a huge contender with the 360 in that department. The wii was a fantastic console.

As for the wii u, I get this thread is supposed to be about popularity, so I guess that is fitting because that really seems to be all anybody cares about; what's popular. But I still fail to see what it is that the ps4 is offering that makes it soooooo much better than the wii u. I don't think the great majority of people who "don't allow the wii u into the next gen conversation," as you say, would even be able to give an answer based off of experience rather than ignorance.

Indeed, the ps4 has gained many positive headlines as you have pointed out, but it will tell you right now, it's not because of the games they have been showing. I would agree with anybody who says ps4 will have some great games and I would even agree with people who bought a ps4 now because they believe it will have the best games in the future, but this ps4 praise is out of control and there is no way that the wii u is an inferior console just because of headlines, public opinion, and word of mouth, it's ridiculous. This hive minded attitude is going to cause developers and console manufacturers to be lazy and put more time into marketing than game creation.