Prediction: Christmas 2014 will determine if WiiU will perm be in 3rd place by the end of the gen.

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DerNebel said:

PigPen said:

DerNebel said:

PigPen said:

John Carmack is with Sony.  You have hands right?

John Carmack is with Occulus Rift. Don't freaking tell me that you are actually talking about Mark Cerny.

Maybe not from Sony, I own a Wii U.  "John Carmack" Gamelab video.  Hell, look on youtube.

....are you talking about this video?

Yep, you found it. Fast forward to like 38:00