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Cobretti2 on 06 May 2014
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oniyide said:
Cobretti2 said:
most people covered the key points.

I think most Japanese 3rd parties are like nintendo, stuck in the stone age, or migrated to mobiles. It also doesn't help 90% of their stuff isn't localized. Hell I would even take english subtitles so I can at least read what they saying in Japanese.
As for western 3rd parties, they produce shitload more which we all want to play. Hence why people get upset when games they like don't come.

Like for me, I like tiger woods golf games, Wii was perfect for that (then come the PS4 motion controller to match the experience). I remember when EA and Nintendo had an unprecedented partnership and they showed how they used the gamepad and wii remote in some trailer they had. Looked like fun seeing the ball on the actual ground. But I guess we will never know now.

so then my next question is, what about Sony, that is very much a Japanese company as well, but they get support out the wazoo, hell theyve been getting support from day one, even the Vita is getting love. What is it about Sony that Ninty cant get the same?

I know someone will pull PS4 out the butt but that system is already getting two if not of if not the biggest games. KH3 and FF15 and i imagine once the cost to develop go down, we'll see alot of Japanese games for it, like we are seeing for PS3 now.

I think Sony has e evolved beyond your traditional Japanese company and take bigger risk (i.e. selling hardware at a big loss, paying money to get exclusives etc..). They seem to do what Micrososft does in terms of gaming, but with a smaller budget and better. I think their diversity had a hand in that also because they already have strong distribution channels and could make themselves the brand known to others. Nintendo on the other hand stuggles because they don't buy shelf space for other products and because a high risk expensive failure for them would hurt more. I also think Nintendo have cornered themselves in that most people can't see value in a Nintendo system if it come out at say $400-$500, even if the specs were better under the cover. So they kind of stuck making cheap hardware and I honestly don't know how they can change that image in one generation. 

Square is also in a different league then most japanese devs. but again they are very risk aversive. Even during the Wii days they could have ported some of the PS2 FF games to test the waters to see how big the market was (i.e. new market not the ones who migrated to PS when FF changed systems), but instead got a spin off. But I guess Wii did end up getting KH so they did support it in some way. I think they sticking with PS4 for two reasons 1. their fans are on sony systems and 2. PS4 is doign very well i the west. Hell no offense to Sony gamers, but they buy their system WAY to early with the games we see at launch. Why do they do it? Simple, the promis and confidence that Sony will deliver a great future. Nintendo on the other hand hasn't got that with the consumer, therefore people will only buy when something is out that they MUST play.

Overall it's hard to know what the real issue is, but we do know that at least Nintendo plays a part in the problem. Anyone who denies that is jsut blind.