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DirtyP2002 said:
funny thread.

The console that really is a gaming console this gen with only / mostly games in mind is the Wii U and look how it is doing.

All these Apps and entertainment shows do not hurt their gaming performance. All it does is to offer more.
Do you think Halo 5 will be worse, because the WWE app just launched? Of course not.

MS made it really clear how big their investments in the gaming related things are, while other lose their staff or have to fire them. Look what MS was doing recently. They bought the Gears of War franchise and signed a multi year and multi game contract with Undead Labs a couple of weeks ago and they are still building new studios.

On the other hand they are getting their foot in the door with their TV Series and shows. And as long their gaming offerings remain as good as they currently are, everybody wins.


Actually I think this is a slap in Sonys face more than anything. Sony has a pretty big movie studio, but failed to use it for other ways of entertainment. It is funny that MS managed to build a movie studio, get the right people behind it and produce a TV series before Sony did this.

i don't think all these other extras hurt things,. i'd never argue that.  in fact, i think it's these extras that have made the gen 8 transition so fast.  i mean, we're around 6 months in now and have ~11.5M units sold between ps4 and xbone.  that's amazing.  for a gamer like me,. that $400 price tag isn't so bad when i know i get quality gaming and all that other shit that i do enjoy.  i purchased my ps4 much, much earlier into this gen than i normally would.

...but i still don't seeing it doing anything to expand the audience for consoles.  my non-gaming fans are buying rokus and apple tvs and chromecasts and probaly fireTVs.  i think it is an inherently flawed PoV that thinks anyone would pay a $300 to $450 dollar premium for a device in order to have a feature (gaming) they aren't interested in.   consoles are for gamers first and foremost and pretty much exclusively.