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DD_Bwest said:

the minimal refloctors they didnt include either the red back light, or the ones on the spokes.   nothing they had met any regulations.   We have rules for a reason,  the bike reflector one just happens to be for safety.

Well, the same can be said of the speed limit rule. Lots of things that don't wear reflectors can wander into the road, and if you're driving faster than you can see, I don't see how you aren't to blame if you hit one of them whether or not you are legally at fault in that particular jurisdiction.