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I called them somewhat underwhelming ultimately because of the lack of postgame content, though they did some good things for game mechanics and presentation.

Likely when i slot them into my top 50, they'll land around (probably under?) Diamond/Pearl

Having completely skipped the third gen, my rank ordering is 2 > 1 > 4 > 5, but that includes the "rose tinted glasses" factor. Objectively, the games have been getting better with time in terms of mechanics.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.