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bananaking21 said:
J_Allard said:
Not even people who predicted PS4 would win this gen could have known MS would emphasize Kinect and profit so much early on. A vast majority of predictions were wrong no matter who was picked to win.

say what now?

He's going off the meme that MS is focused on profit up-front vs. how it worked last gen.
Except Sony is doing the exact same.  You can compare the "bill of materials" to sale price, and it is equivalent.
Further, MS basically did float a trial balloon of dropping price/subsidizing more (selling at loss) with the Titanfall bundle,
which basically was sold at the same price as PS4 console, while still including Kinect: IT DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
(certainly NOT EVERYBODY knew of/was able to take advantage of the bundle, but it should still show SOME EFFECT, which it did not)

So mere price partiy is not enough for MS to change the situation, if anything they need to have a price ADVANTAGE, and a significant one.
The ONLY WAY TO DO THAT is to drop Kinect AND further subsidize the console.  Maybe they will try that this next holiday.
The actual reality of public demand means Sony de facto has a massive advantage without even trying, they beat MS' subsidized Titanfall combos.
So if there is any economic sense in MS subsidizing a future Kinect-less SKU,
there is MUCH MORE sense in Sony doing so negate any MS pricing advantage, allowing thm to lock-in their advantage.
Once Sony's lead is massive and beyond the point of no return, there is no sense in MS trying further subsidies, nor will Sony need them.
Sony is already probably getting 2:1 licencing and 1st party game revenue compared to XBone.