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KingdomHeartsFan said:
Shaunaka said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

This is the first gen the number is gonna go down.  


What makes you think that? I'm not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that you are 100% in tune with one of the strangest psychological phenomena of human beings; "the end is near" syndrome. Christians always think Jesus is just about to arrive on the clouds, and the console market is always about to shrink.

Do you have ANY reasoning, data or anything at all to back that up with?

The PS4 AND X1 are outselling every other console ever. That's what I have to back my statements up with.

Speak up.

PS4 and X1 are outselling the PS3 and 360 cause last gen was the longest gen ever and people were dying for next gen consoles for so long, when the finally came out people went out buying them all at once.  Now for this gen I think we can all agree Wii U won't reach anywhere near Wii numbers, it might be around Gamecube numbers if Nintendo can turn things around.  Also this gen since PS4 and X1 both require people to pay for online more people are just gonna stick with one console instead of getting both.  I think we can agree PS4 will outsell PS3.  As far as the X1 goes, it has no chance in most of Europe and Japan and its losing a large part of its market share in the main places it sells, the US and UK, so its most likely that its not gonna sell as well as the 360.  

Taking all this into consideration we have Wii U at 22m (that's being generous, since its way below GC levels at the same point in time), X1 at roughly 60m I'd say, and even if PS4 manages to reach PS2 numbers, which I doubt it will, that leaves it at 158m.  That gives 240m as the best case scenary imo.  


Yes, but you and your contextual camp said that most of the Wii numbers don't count since they were casuals, and that a ton of the 360s were replaced.

So I don't know how to argue anymore, because the straight up data and facts don't work, and I can't even use your own arguments against you. Now I have to deal with this:

"PS4 and X1 are outselling the PS3 and 360 cause last gen was the longest gen ever and people were dying for next gen consoles for so long, when the finally came out people went out buying them all at once"

My conclusion is that no matter what I say, people will say that the console market is shrinking. You people are saying that there are less machines in front of TVs that can play games nowadays than before. You are saying less people are buying dedicated gaming consoles. Less people are buying videogames.

I just can't believe it.