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Zero999 said:
Hedra42 said:

For reference, can you give an example of 'really good' third party sales on Wii U? Also, can you show us the WD vs AC4 preorder figures?

According to VGChartz, AC4 has only done 160k so far, and amounts to just over 1% of the total sales. If you're saying that WD would have done significantly more than that, and you have pre-order figures to prove it, let's see them.

acording to vg chartz us preorders. WD for wii u has 27k and AC4 had a 23k first week on US. the 160k for AC4 is already good for profiting and watch dogs had much better chances of selling very well.

really good third party sales? lego city, zombi u, monster hunter tri, rayman legends, sonic and sega all stars racing transformed, resident evil revelations, just dance series, skylanders series, lego series. AC3 and batman arkham city got an ok ltd so far and should be surpassed by their sequels.

Thanks for providing this info.

Lego City Under Cover (720k) was published by Nintendo.
Monster Hunter Tri (490k) was published by Nintendo.
Resident Evil Revelations (Capcom) I can't seem to find anywhere on this site.

For the rest:

Rayman Legends 310k, X360 and PS3 are 350k and 260k (Released in 2014 PS4 110k, X1 50k) - Wii U = 29% sales
Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing Transformed 310k,   X360 and PS3 are330k and 400k - Wii U = 30% sales

Just Dance 2014 - 270k. Wii sales were 2.99 million. X360 - 770k. PS3 250k, X1 210k, PS4 170k.  Wii U = 4% sales
Just Dance 4 240k. Wii sales over 6 million. X360 1 million. PS3 340k. Wii U = 3% sales
Just Dance Wii U 20k exclusive


Skylanders Swap Force 250k. Wii sales 1.5 million. X360 910k, PS3 370k. PS4 and X1 - 140k and 130k. Wii U = 7% sales
Skylanders Giants 180k. Wii sales 2.3 million. X360 1 million. PS3 810k. Wii U = 4% sales

Lego Marvel Super Heroes 230k. X360 1 million. PS3 950k, PS4 460k, 3DS 360k, X1 310k. Wii U = 6% sales
Lego Movie 90k. X360 410k, PS3 240k, PS4 110k, X1 90k, PSV 30k, PC 10k. Wii U = 9% sales
Lego Batman 2 20k. X360 1.3 million. Wii 1.1 million. PS3 960k. DS 600k 3DS 530k. PSV 250k Wii U = 0.4% sales

(feel free to check the math)

ZombiU 660k exclusive

The high install base of 7th gen consoles has an impact on many of these figures, but where the figures are comparable, it is because the other consoles' numbers are low, not because the Wii U numbers are high.

As for the exclusives you mention, Just Dance Wii U and ZombiU (Ubisoft) only sold 680k between them.

Regarding the preorder sales, Watch Dogs may well have overtaken AC4 in preorder sales by the time AC4 was released, but it still only represents a small percentage of the overall preorders.

Looking at the snapshot of preorders at the end of  October 2013, before any delays had been announced, (PS4 120k, X1 96k and  X360 65k) - assuming that PS3 was about 30k and Wii U 20k (as I can't see them) Wii U preorders would only have made up about an estimated 6% of preorders.

Zero999 said:

Watch dogs would have a good chance of selling well on wii u, it may still sell decently but nowhere near the numbers it would get if given a fair chance.

Zombie U was given a huge chance, bundled in with the Wii U and pro controller from launch, and it wasn't profitable.

Watch Dogs may have the potential to do well in your opinion, but compared with expectations for the other versions, everything points to it being poor, regardless of any delay. Those factors include the type of audience, low install base, low preorders, and past performances of other 3rd party exclusives and cross platform games.