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Hedra42 on 15 April 2014
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Zero999 said:
Hedra42 said:
Zero999 said:

the game would release in june/july with the original teams working on their versions. with wii u developers taken for at least 3 months, the date of the wii u version goes to september/october, maaaaybe november.

And there's the flaw, in the bolded, right there.

You can't pull a timeframe out of the air, tout it as fact and claim that everything else is wrong. You don't know that all games would have released in June/July with all original teams working on their versions, because you don't know how many resources there are on each team, or how far ahead each version was in relation to the others, or what is still needed to be done.

You don't know, because you haven't bothered to read the links, the other reasons why the Wii U version will take more time. The delay is not just because the Wii U developers' time was borrowed. 

If you could tell me how many guys were working on each version, 9am to 5pm, five days a week, and if you knew exactly how many  Wii U developers were pulled to help out and for exactly how long, you could make a statement like that with some certainty. But you don't know that information.

And let's not forget, the Autumn release window is still only a rumour. It could still be a longer delay, and this, along with the other reasons given for the delay   is what makes joesampson's estimate more plausible at this point.

if the other versions are releasing in may 27 WITH help of the wii u version devs, it's simple logic that it wouldn't take that much longer without those extra devs.

No, it's not logic. You can't make a statement like this with any certainty, because you don't know all the facts. As joesampson says, it's conjecture, because it is based on incomplete facts.

It is reasonable to suggest that all versions EXCEPT the Wii U version might have been finished in June or July without the help of the Wii U devs, based on the FACT they had all been given an extra six months development time, and the ASSUMPTION that they wouldn't come up against any problems that might lead to another major delay. But that doesn't even mean that June/July is accurate.

But when you take these facts into account - 

a) Dominic Guay, senior producer of the game, said in an interview in March, that they needed more time with the Wii U version, and didn't want to delay all the other platforms for that one.

b) A Wii U version release in 2014 is 'possible'. The Autumn 2014 release window  is still an unconfirmed rumour.

- these indicate that a significant amount of extra dev time is needed. It is reasonable to suggest, then, that even if the Wii U devs had continued on their own version, they may well have been in the position where the Wii U version was going to take longer to finish than the other versions anyway.

The point is, you DON'T KNOW. Nobody knows, for sure. But you can't call logic, because you don't have all of the facts. You can't make a firm statement such as: "the game would release in june/july with the original teams working on their versions",  because you don't have sufficient evidence to support it.