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Machiavellian on 04 April 2014
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Terlig said:
Machiavellian said:
SvennoJ said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

No no, the rubles are created in realtime as you can see is microsoft's demo up at the top with it's "chunk count". It's cool that Nvidia showed real-time fracturing in this demo but the rest of their demos don't do it because it's computationally expensive as seen in microsoft's demo. Compared to the scale shown it's clear that MS demo is more impressive considering the fact that it's handling collision detection with 30 000 procedurally generated chunks!

That would be it's achilles heel as much as it sounds impressive. The data stream to update that kind of debris count at 32fps would easily exceed 60mbps. Plus the local machine still needs to have the spare overhead to render all that extra stuff. No wonder it's all simple grey blocks with flat lighting and no shadows.

Are you  sure about that.  The server only needs to send back the caculated values and the host machine display the results.  The data stream is much smaller than what people are thinking.

Yeah. Tell ppl without still internet or with poor internet connection that they can only see 5 FPS, because of power of the cloud. Tell this to ppl which would want to play a single player game. 

And for multiplayer games - you need to consider, that this data stream is an addition to the data stream already required for multiplayer purposes. And i don't even consider graphics - just physics.

Its easy to see that MS is not concerned about people without internet.  Actually their first plans for the X1 is a clear indication of how much MS is concerned about people without the internet.  As for MP why would you think this really make a big difference.  Sending just the calculated info can be heavely compressed.  The amount of info would be nothing even with MP.  The problem is not the amount of data or even your speed of connection but more about ping time to the server sending the info.  This is something that MS has an advantage because they have servers around the world so low pings is very possible.