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Fusioncode said:
If you reached any harder you would pull a star out of the sky. None of this sounds even the slightest bit plausible.

Your reasons are:
Gabe Newell likes Nintendo games
The Steam controller looks slightly similar to Pro controller on the WiiU
WiiU is not in competition with the Steam Machine (Wrong)
Steam games are easily portable to WiiU (lolwhat?)

Erm... none of that is what I said in regards to why I think it could happen. But thanks for the strawman. Now I just need to see if I can find him a brain.

My reasons, distilled down, are that Gabe insists on saying that he loves Nintendo, that they spoke as though they were putting support on the Wii U, that Steam Box is looking a hell of a lot like a souped-up Wii U, that EA dropped support because Nintendo refused them Origin on the system and yet Valve continue to talk Nintendo up (despite Steam not yet being on the system), and that indies have already been talking about Nintendo and Valve working together.

The observation regarding the steam controller was that the first prototype clearly borrowed an idea from the Upad, and the second prototype is nearly identical to the Pro controller (except for the sticks being replaced by these curious touch-based pad things). Keep in mind how much the various companies trademark/patent/otherwise legally control use of controllers with layouts similar to theirs. I didn't say Wii U isn't in competition with "the steam machine", I said that the Steam Box could easily be positioned to not compete directly with Wii U, such that the two systems have good complementarity, serving different parts of the market and thus minimising problematic overlap. And I most certainly never said anything about ease of porting, right now, to Wii U. What I said was that Steam Box could be configured to make porting easy between it and Wii U.

Your nonsensical interpretation of what I said comes down to, I suspect, two major misunderstandings:

1. Steam Box hasn't been released. There have been rumoured specs, and specs for some beta boxes that have been sent out (those specs varying from box to box), but nothing more. It's a system in development. Thus, one can't really comment on existing porting capability, etc, but can only speculate. I was not asserting the existing Steam platform (the service that works with regular PCs) was like the Wii U in any sense.

2. My argument isn't about similarity, but reasons behind the similarity. When Valve's controller prototypes get more like Wii U controllers, that makes me think that there's more to it than coincidence when combined with the other evidence I put forward.