PS2 and Nintendo Wii.

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Rock_on_2008 said:

Lets see both Nintendo Wii and the PS2 share quite a few things in common.

1. The PS2 was last generation's shovelware machine it had a lot of good games on it but there was also a lot of crap games on that system. The Nintendo Wii is the shovelware console of this generation and has a lot of good games already but it has had a lot of crap games.

2. The PS2 sold over 120 million consoles in its life time so far in 7 years. The Nintendo Wii is expected to reach 120 million years in 5 to 6 years time.

3. PS2 was the market leading console of its generation smashing its competition in sales and appealing to all gamers both hardcore (minority) and the casuals (majority). The Nintendo Wii is the market leader of the current generation and its smashing its rivals, Wii is popular with all gamers both casuals and hardcore.

4. Both PS2 and Nintendo Wii have the inferior consoles of their generation in regards to graphics , memory and storage capacity, where its rivals had superior consoles.

5. Both Nintendo Wii and PS2 are the cheapest consoles of their generation. 

 

@ your post:

#1: ps2 really wasn't as much of a shovelware console until 2006 (when the ps3 hit shelves). there were some games, yes, but not nearly as many as people make it out to be. (note: there were plenty of sub-par games on the ps2. but there is a difference between a sub-par game coming from a notable developer, ie: 'devil may cry 2', and 'ninja bread man.')

#2: true

#3: the ps2 had way more hardcore games early on and way more gamers who bought the system for hardcore games.

#4: the distance (in terms of power and all that) from the wii to ps3/360 is a lot larger then the distance from the ps2-xobx. also, ps2 was weaker because it came out a year before those systems, wii was made on the cheap (relatively speaking) by choice. ps2 was also more powerful then the dreamcast.

#5: ps2 was not the cheapest. in fact, it launched at $300, just like the xbox. the gamecube and dreamcast both launced at $200.

i (and ive said this before) think the wii has a lot more in common with the ps1 then ps2.

ps2 lived off 3rd party support / wii lives off 1st party support

ps2 had a ton of (high quality) exclusive third party titles / wii to date has few

ps2 had far more games rated mature/teen

ps2 was not geared towards casuals

ps2 was not a system that specifically encouraged thinking outside the box in terms of game development

ps2 could play movies  

wii is much more like the ps1 in that:

both marked a change in the direction of gaming

both surprised everyone with how they took the gaming market by storm

both released a lot of haphazard titles early on

both saw developers struggling to make quality titles for it early on

since it was so cheap to develop for, the ps1 had wayyyyyy more shovelware then ps2