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oniyide on 09 March 2014
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OP considering the preorders the thing had for the Wii U i dont think you have to worry about it...

and no lets not use that sad install base excuse, that dog dont hunt when the PS4 and Xone versions have MUCH higher preorders


It's a well known fact that, historically speaking, most so-called "Nintendo gamers" don't tend to pre-order NEARLY as much as the PS/XB generation of gamers do.

So? THat makes my point even stronger. If Ubi sees the numbers they are most likely not going to want to support it. What you really thought that Watchdogs would have sold as well as the other versions. Cause historically speaking, 3rd party multiplats do much worst on WIi U. Hell look at MP games between Wii U, PS4 and ONE big difference and you cant even say userbase.


MY point was, that even for Nintendo brand games, most "Nintendo Gamers" tend to pick games up after they release, not go out and pre-order them at Gamestop every time a new "AAA" blockbuster title gets announced. Meaning, that most of them are not part of the "Gamestop Generation" culture.

So Ninty gamers dont preorder, thats fine. But they still end up buying their Ninty games and not much else. Recent sales show that. My point is that preorders show an interest in a game. Hell you're not even right about that. Even Ninty's own games show up on the preorder charts. MK8 is there right now. DKC before that. Where are the 3rd party games for WIi U?

My point is that at no point was Watchdogs on the preorder chart when every other version was on it.

The latest interview with the Watch Dogs producer disproves the second emboldened statement. (source link in my previous post, quoted by Kwaidd, 7 posts before this one)

As for the first emboldened statement: The the top 30 Preorders chart (which is US only) is influenced by a variety of factors, including but not limited to, install base, hype, availability for preorder, popularity of franchise, number of weeks until release, demographic, etc. To take your example, Mario Kart 8 is there at #23 because it's part of a hugely successful franchise, but would probably have had a higher placing if the install base was greater. Just because the preorders don't make the top 30 doesn't mean they're not being preordered. Rayman Legends didn't make the preorder charts on any of the platforms, and it still sold better on PS3 than it did Wii U.

But this is off topic. This thread wasn't created to discuss preorders, it is about whether Nintendo fans should boycott Watch Dogs for Wii U because the game is being delayed, or support Ubisoft in its decision and wait, because the delay will most likely mean a more polished game suited for the Wii U. 

the install base goes out the window, when you consider that there are less Xones out there than WIi Us and Watchdogs has less preorders than the former. So its not really a userbase thing not totally. As for the bolded, if Ubi games keep flopping you bet they will drop support or at least lower support. Danm near everyone else did. Never said that they needed to be in the top 30 to be preordered. BUT if you're not in the top 30 i would bet that those arent large preorder numbers. Hence Watchdogs

Rayman is not a great example, becasue 1 it actually was on the charts, for the Wii U but taht was befoer the delay. It didnt have large numbers. 2 Rayman has always been more popular in Europe. guess which company between Sony and Ninty is more popular their? 3 we dont have preorder numbers for Europe. Rayman was going to always do better on PS3. 

Its not really off topice we are talking about Watchdogs for Wii U OP is saying that Ninty gamers shouldnt buy Watchdogs for Wii U and im saying dont worry alot werent going to anyway. Im using the preorder numbers to show how little interest their is for that particular SKU. Unless you believe that Watchdogs has a chance to do as well as any of the other versions? But you dont believe that. Hell it will sell as well as UBI's other games which is not well at all.