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andrewclear said

Don't forget to mention that Nintendo has done most of the innovating in the industry.  Sony doesn't care about innovation, but mainly adding more power into their system.  Microsoft's only innovation has been the online multiplayer capabilities of console gaming (which, before the xbox was pretty crappy).

It depends on how each one of us define innovation. And, honestly, you must have a peculiar way, since you consider improvement of multiplayer capabilities but disregard improvement of core capabilities.

For me, anything can be innovation: from PS3's Cell to Xbox's Live, from Wii motion to Sony's Blu-ray.

 

andrewclear said

Gamers owe a lot to Nintendo, whether they realize it or not.  Sure, Nintendo pulled out of the losing battle that is taking place over whose console is more powerful, but in doing so they have focused on making games more fun to play.  Personally, I don't give a damn about the motion controls of the Wii, but a lot of people did.  The Wii had some damn good games on it though.  I do love the gamepad on my Wii U, probably because I love my DS and 3DS also.

You talk like powerful consoles was just a whim from Sony and Microsoft. It's not. Power is what allows anything else. Improving power is opening new doors to innovation.

You also talk like Nintendo games were more fan to play. Again, this is false. It depends on each gamer's tastes and preferences. For example, taking only gameplay into account, I find MotorStorm more fun than Excite Truck. In this case, Sony's IP is better in everthing (graphics, gameplay, content, etc.). But this is only my opinion. You love your DS and 3DS. That's fine. Other people love their PS3 and PS Vita. It would be arrogant of you to think that those people only care about graphics.

 

andrewclear said

Let's also not forget that Microsoft and Sony keep copying everything Nintendo does.  Nintendo brings us motion controls, so Sony and Microsoft bring us Kinect and Move.  Nintendo has the gamepad, so Sony uses tablets (what a joke) and Microsoft has it's Glass stuff that I don't know much about.

Not true. I could say then that Nintendo's motion tech has copied Sony's EyeToy Cameo. I could also say that the 4-player-gameplay on Super Mario Bros was a copy from LittleBigPlanet. Etc.

 

andrewclear said

Gamers need to quit bashing Nintendo just because they try to do things differently.  Without Nintendo, we would have a lot less games on the market, and a lot less variety.  Without Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft wouldn't do anything other than building steam boxes without steam.

I believe no one here has ever bashed on Nintendo because they act differently but because they don't act in a good way. Difference on itself has no problem at all.

And one could say opposite thing you are claiming: without Nintendo the market would have flourished much faster and we could have nowadays a lot more devs and games on a significantly larger market.



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