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mai said:

On Goblin "Poland in shambles" remark. Not being a big expert on the present situation in Poland (could imagine they're following common trend and amount of euro-optimists is decreasing), but even if imagine unimaginable situation when Ukriane in EU, they'd be happy to have this kind of shambles. After all it was 2004 when Poland entered EU, that was drastically different situation, be it 2007 when Bulgaria and Romania have joined EU -- that'd be another story, let alone now. So Poland, like Poles or not (and our relations always have been... complicated to say the least), have a loooong way ahead before it'll hit the rock bottom under the name of Ukraine. 


Right. We are in better pos than UKR, but we paid a huge price for this. And yep, more and more ppl complains about EU, mostly cos economic what is sometimes pure anti- Polish. I think the whole Europe complains about EU now. 

Nobody in the whole EU will hit anything in the name of UKR. Of course can force this, but it will absolutely destroys their society supports.

Polish Russians relations are basically good. No visa program, etc. Average ppl do not support Ukraine's nev goverment - mostly cos od Ukrainian fascist there.