Wii U's power is great!

[supernihilist]

bonzobanana said:

supernihilist said:

bonzobanana said:
So much denial of reality in this thread.

Whatever the wii u is capable of its doing it now. While Nintendo may not have released the spec to the general public (because its so terrible) developers will have full information. Same cpu architecture as before, well documented low end modern gpu (likely mobility design), a small amount of high speed embedded memory and low bandwidth main memory. Nothing amazing, all a very cheap design. Performance poor for modern ambitious games but perfectly adequete for cartoon graphics and a huge generational leap from the wii.

For those who think the wii u is powerful why not wait until there is some evidence to support your view (you'll be waiting a long time) before commenting. It just looks ridiculous to write about the power of the wii u when its generally beaten for most games by ps3 and 360. I might as well write about the 360 being close to the power of the xbox one or the ps3 being close to the performance of the power of the ps4 both stupid statements but no different to claiming the wii u is powerful.

At this point in time both ps3 and 360 have a wider choice of technically far more impressive games than wii u and ultimately thats what matters.

lol, thats funny comin from u

if anything, WiiU chipset is too expensive by Nintendo standards

remember its everything on the same MCM and eDram is on die too

everything is packed together for low latency and maximize eDram performance

ss. stop telling people they are in denial when u dont have a clue

Why on earth would the wii u chipset be expensive, its on the same fabrication process as the current 360 and PS3 and not on the more advanced process (28nm) that the ps4 and xbox one use.  It's cheap to say the least and is only run at a low speed so yields will be ultra high, even cheaper again. The 360 and PS3 cpu's are running at 3.2ghz not the 1.25ghz of wii u.

PS4 apu size at 28nm is 19x18.3mm (348mm2)

Xbox one apu is the same at (348mm2)

wii u cpu is 32.7mm2 at 45nm so would be equivilant of about 20mm2 at 28nm

wii u gpu is 156.21mm2 at 40nm so  109mm2 at 28nm so combined is 137mm2 or getting close to a third of the size of ps4/xbox one and running at a slower speed and paired with very slow external memory.

The wii u die size is less than ps3 and 360 too and again runs the cpu side much, much slower than them.

That is the cold hard truth of wii u.

If however Nintendo had paid out for a 28nm process they could have massively improved its performance while still producing a compact console. They could have added more cpu and gpu resources and produced a console cleanly between 360/PS3 and PS4/Xbox one in performance. Instead we have a console below 360/ps3 that is only really usable for Nintendo's own exclusive games.

Lets say they had put in 128MB of external GDDR5 memory and dedicated more silicon to gpu and cpu resources they would again have had something more competitive.

The fact Nintendo went so cheap with a 40/45nm process same as ps3/360 models is why thy console is mostly performing below 360 and PS3.

If you believe the wii u gpu and cpu being close together gives improved latency etc then you must really be impressed with ps4 and xbox one as the gpu and cpu are actually on the same silicon and so in theory can have even faster memory bandwidth without the restraints of external data connection.

Again there is absolutely no basis for believing the wii u is powerful which ever direction you approach it from but the real test is how it actually performs and its clearly nonsense to pretend a console is powerful when in the real world it is struggling to perform above consoles that were first available about 8 years ago.

Nintendo have done wonders getting respectable performance out of very cheap components but that performance level is still below that of 360 and PS3 most of hte time.

LOL. not a single clue. go to Gaf or Beyond and read the full WiiU tech threads. then come back so we can talk like equals.

 

WiiU is a fully custom chip with custom parts on a unique set up. period

and thats expensive. this is no off the shelf part like PS4.