Zod95 said:
forest-spirit said:
Zod95 said:
sundin13 said:
I feel like every time you use the word "evolution", the entire scientific community cringes.Its like when people say that humans are the "most evolved" animal which is complete BS from a scientific perspective.
You really cannot say anything about the music Nintendo uses in their games without being 100% opinionated. There is no facts backing up those opinions. "Sang music" is in no way more evolved than instrumental music. You have spoken about music a few times on here and used it as an example of how Nintendo hasn't evolved or adapted but I am still waiting for proof.
Additionally Nintendo does use vocals in a lot of their music (whether it is a choir or it is lyrical varies)
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If this isn't enough proof for you, then I will not bother debating with you about this topic (once 3D is objectively more evolved than 2D):
"Regarding music, no, games don't need to (and they didn't) phase out instrumental music. They (can) have both. And of course vocal music is more evolved. Games began to have only instrumental music and then adopted vocal music when they became more evolved. Even the music itself began to be instrumental-only and then evolved too. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean vocal music is better. A perfect comparison would be 2D and 3D games. Games began to be 2D and then most of them evolved to 3D. Does this mean 2D games are worse? Of course not. But they are not as evolved, that's for sure."
Additionally, the OP doesn't say Nintendo games don't have vocal music nowadays but that they got it later than the competitors.
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I don't understand the point you're trying make by claiming that vocal music is more evolved than instrumental. Does it make vocal music more complex? Superior? More expensive? Harder to make? More evolved or not I fail to see what it would prove.
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Evolved: vocal music has instruments and voice, and it appeared later in both History of Music and History of Videogaming ; instrumental-only music, as the name itselft tells, has only instruments.
Complex: yes, it has everything instrumental-only music has and more.
Superior: no, that's already about tastes.
Harder to make: theoretically yes, meaning that the same music with the same instruments and the same conditions is harder to make when you add voice on top of that.
What it would prove: it doesn't prove anything besides the facts themselves (that most of Nintendo games shifted to vocal music later than their competitors), it only suggests that Nintendo wasn't willing to make the same effort and that it was forced by others rather than forcing them to evolve.
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That would make MIDI more evolved in the aspect of history. Also, you can find plenty of music that is more complex using only instruments than vocal and instrument. Unless you think rap and pop is more complex that classic works. Complexity is fairly subjective in itself
