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Zod95 said:
cannonballZ said:
Zod95 said:

You are confusing invention with innovation. Invention is about creation, being original. Innovation is about changing the market (or at least making an impact) by releasing a product. So, yes, Farmville is innovation, otherwise Wii Motion wouldn't be either, once there were already motion controls on the PC before the Wii.

Anyway, I guess you got the point about the difference between innovation and evolution.


Farmville had an impact???? on what??? 

On the market: not only it had astronomical acceptance but also many people that had never played a single videogame in their lives have tried Farmville.

On the industry: after that, many more devs began to do facebook games.

 

cannonballZ said:

But you barely if at all acknowledge the effort...; especially if it's a Nintendo game, you downplay the effort like they took the easy route with all their games.

That's right. I acknowledge little merit on that. And it's easy to understand why: such games require little time, money and other resources but talent, they don't even require to go out of the 4 walls of the studios. For me, that's the easy route.

I understand you have a different view. You think talent and creativity are more scarce resources than effort/money/time. That's ok, I respect you opinion.

 

cannonballZ said:

And as far as Wii U not having a better looking game than gt5.... Project cars says hello. It's still early in the consoles life cycle..

Let's wait for the final result and then we make the comparison. My guess is that GT5 will stay ahead and that Project CARS on WiiU will be significantly inferior to the other versions.

Inferior to the other versions is stating the obvious!! It's not on last gen consoles!!!

 

And now you say Farmville is what kicked off the facebook game craze? 

Sources please. You can't just say something is true and it becomes that. And saying it impacted the market?? it's a free game!!! Most of the people I know that were playing it, were casuals that don't really care for sophisticated gaming experiences. And it didn't stop anyone from playing on other devices or consoles. 

 

No one is going to look back in 20 years and say... you know that farmville.... what a progress that was for the industry!!! Such innovative cloning skills. 

Edit: Also, the budget used to create a game doesn't necessarily = quality. If Nintendo found a way to make great games to play while saving money at the same time, more power to them. I don't care about the budget they use, I only care about how fun a game is to play. Isn't that why we play games in the first place? To have fun, to experience something different and unique?  Sometimes it doesn't have to be completely different, just expand on the current universe or game mechanics, you'd be surprised how much fun you can have playing games instead looking to criticize them for graphics and budgets.