Was the Fortaleza/720 PDF leak in 2012 real?

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Zappykins said:

Fusioncode said:

Zappykins said:

 

Why would you even come to this thread?

Why did you? 

And the Xbox One has destoryed the PS3 sales at same time over launch too.  So? 

A stronger launch but it's stabilized far lower than what the PS3 was at the same point and time. Even though it costs a $100 more.

The Xbox One is doing well.  And next month they have THE major game of the next gen launching.  The PS4 is doing well, why doesn't that make you happy?

Huh? So it's perfectly fine for Selnor to spread FUD about PS brand dying off because they're not following their own "vision" even though they're winning this gen, but I can't dare call him out on it? Selnor's reasoning for PS brand was ludicrous that I decided to respond. He could have debated it with me and there would have been no hurt feelings. Except for yours for some reason. PS4 success makes me very happy by the way, thanks for asking. 

 

I'm hear to read and share about Fortzaleza and the 2012 leak.  And new tech.  Instead it's getting swamped up in people that have no interest in the Xbox and are worried about their preferred game platform.

I'm not worried about PS4, clearly you're more worried about XBO considering you keep arguing with me about it. 

Actually, no the PS3 was way, way behind the Xbox One at this point.  Plus next month is a big game launch.  Nothing big happened in Feb and it's after the holidays.  It's a traditionally slow time. 

Please check the numbers, the PS4 was tracking WELL above the XBO during the Q1 launch. Though I'm not surprised to see you spreading false information considering you keep doing it. 

Personally, I thik Selnor is a bit generous in his view. I don't think the PS will be doing as well as he think it will in 5 years.  Sony made a short term judgment that I think will cost them in the long term.  Their hope it to get enough units out.  Time will show how well that works or doesn't for them.  I know they didn't have the sales in Japan they were expecting.  So we shall see.

Here's that FUD again... You have yet to explain why PS4 is in so much trouble. You completely ignore sales figure just spout ridiculous claims over and over again. I'm not even going to bother showing you the numbers because you just ignore me every time. But now we see MIcrosoft getting desperate with early pricedrops and giving their biggest game away for free. I don't see PS4 making any moves out of desperation... And they sold 322k in Japan out of a 350k shipment. I think they sold exactly what they were expecting. But no, continue ignoring facts and sales as always. 

Now back to the leak and Fortzaleza – I’m looking forward to seeing this new VR tech.

From Sony? Yeah me too. 

 

Please stop debating with me unless you;re going to actually use numbers and facts. Stop spreading lies and false information. Thanks.