Was the Fortaleza/720 PDF leak in 2012 real?

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Zappykins said:

Fusioncode said:

selnor1983 said:
Anyone who says this gen is even remotely over is wrong. PS4 has won nothing. A good start, but MS are following their own vision. Something I don't think Sony has. Sony reacted and took out PS Eye to be cheaper. But their future is what, more PS3.5 games?

5 years from now I really feel PS will be in trouble as a brand. It will not have moved forward.

Have you looked at the sales figures yet Selnor, PS4 outsold XBO 2:1 last month in the US. PS4 is absolutely destroying them in Europe. People have completely rejected Microsoft's "vision" and now their new console is selling almost as poorly as the WiiU. Sony's "vision" this gen was to make better hardware and better games. And it's working out great. It's a straight ahead upgrade from the PS3, like the NES to SNES, or the PS1 to the PS2. I suppose the PS2 and SNES were poor consoles in your eyes as well? 

And Sony wasn't the one "reacting" to their competitors this gen and sacrificing their "vision". That was Microsoft when they completely changed their original idea for the console and basically made it a straight ahead upgrade of the 360. Except they bundled Kinect for very little and rather stupid reasons. The XBO is a stronger 360 with Kinect bundled. I'm not sure how that's innovative in the slightest. How is the PS brand going to be in trouble when they're absolutely wrecking XBO this gen? This isn't even a close fight anymore. Look at the sales figures if you don't believe me. 

Why would you even come to this thread?

Why did you? 

And the Xbox One has destoryed the PS3 sales at same time over launch too.  So? 

A stronger launch but it's stabilized far lower than what the PS3 was at the same point and time. Even though it costs a $100 more.

The Xbox One is doing well.  And next month they have THE major game of the next gen launching.  The PS4 is doing well, why doesn't that make you happy?

Huh? So it's perfectly fine for Selnor to spread FUD about PS brand dying off because they're not following their own "vision" even though they're winning this gen, but I can't dare call him out on it? Selnor's reasoning for PS brand was ludicrous that I decided to respond. He could have debated it with me and there would have been no hurt feelings. Except for yours for some reason. PS4 success makes me very happy by the way, thanks for asking.