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Michael-5 said:
forevercloud3000 said:

Ok, fair enough..........

but what the hell is a "Hipster RPG"? Because of the trendy artstyle? Or their contrarian popularity?

And if you really like Fire Emblem you should try Valkyria Chronicles 2 on PSP.

I wouldn't say the bulk of Atlus's works are contraian. Hipster isn't the best word, but I'm not a fan of this new era of JRPG's.

It's not the artstyle, but usually the story they tell. I mean I love Catherine and that's probably a lot more bizarre then any of those games we mentioned. I think it's just usually the role of the High School student saving the world which throws me off. I'm 24, I finished high school a long time ago, and when I play games like The World Ends With You I feel like they are targeted towards a younger audience.

What I'm trying to say is that when I play something like XenoBlade or Final Fantasy, it's completely fantasy from the get-go. I hate it when they try to tie ridiculous fantasy's to real world living. I hate the social sim mechanics of Persona, I hated how Indigo Prophecy became some Angel vs. Demon thing with super powers at the end, and If it weren't for some epic fight scenes, I would have hated Matrix 2 & 3.

Take Persona 3, I actually loved the art style, voice acting, and setting. I also loved the idea of a "hidden hour" where all the bad stuff in the game takes place. However what's the point of the game? Get to the top of some Random Tower to see if that stops Monsters from appearing? Not only do I hate Dungeon Crawlers, but once I get to a checkpoint, I then have to wait a week for the High School story to catch up. Was really annoying, I did like the Battle Mechanics of this game.

I don't think of these games as trendy, but because that's the common view that's probably why I labeled it "Hipster." I feel the same about this game as some people would about Vogue fashion. It's not fashion, it's just silly, but sometimes it can look good. That said I still give the games a taste now and then. Danganronpa sounds interesting enough, and Disgaea is border line "trendy."

As for Valkyria Chronicles 2, I loved the first one for PS3, but I felt 2 was just meh. Half the game is just training missions, and it never feels as epic as the first game. Plus the battle zones are too small, but the fact that they made this game work on the PSP without that much loading is impressive. Personally I feel FF Tactics, Tactics Ogre, and Disgaea are better SRPG's for me, I was really surprised at how fun Disgaea is.

Back to Vita though, Disgaea is probably one of the biggest reasons why I want a Vita, but why buy a Vita for Disgaea 3 & 4 when I still have to beat 1 & 2? I hear 1 & 2 are much better and I would have trouble going back once I got used to Vita's graphics. At least PSP is comparable to the 3DS graphically.

WOW..............your taste is awful :P lol jk but seriously, wtf?

So what you are saying is............you hate fantasies based within reality. Yet not any reality apparently but rather a particular time period, present day.

The Dungeon Crawler thing also strikes me as odd because EVERY RPG IS RIDDLED WITH DUNGEONS. They are presented in a mirriad of ways, but they are dungeons. Skyrim had litteral ones, Final Fantasy games disguised them as castles and other locals but they all have the same function wich is to impede you from the next story objective. Persona  is no different, it just so happens that their dungeon exist in parallel dimensions. P4's dungeon is inside of the TV world and each Dungeon is a interpretation of a character's inner conflict.

 

And you like Disgaea.........when its whole make up is based on tedius dungeon crawling (not that its bad).

 

AndI'm also 24. I had an ok time in High School I suppose. I still love that feeling of "Edge of Seventeen", when the world is your oyster and you can do or become anything, yet it is still oh so frightening. This is actually a key facet of most JRPGs. Very few deal with characters beyond high school age. Even if they are out of HS, they are usually of the early 20s variety. Cloud was 22, Squall was 17, Zidane is 16, Tidus and Yuna were 16/17, Lightning is maybe 22-24, most of Disgaea's cast members are demons stuck in pre pubescent bodies. Its the feeling above they always try to capture by having such a young cast.

No games capture that feeling better than the Persona's. Social Links are really not that different than the talking to characters during a break we saw in Mass Effect, or the designated scenes you saw in older JRPGs. Its just character development you can control. Most of them try to talk about something "Real" in a sense, something that normal people contend with at times. The Spiderman/Superman/Superhero like balance is also part of the charm. Save the world every night but no one knows what you are going through, they just expect you to still get good grades and be a productive member of society. Its about as realistic as that type of situation would be.



      

      

      

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