The XB1 wasn't ready for launch in 2013

[Zappykins]

Dr.Grass said:

Zappykins said:

Good grief, another one of these threads?

Well, I do kind of agree with you.   But I would say the Xbox One was more ready than the PS4.  Both seem a bit rushed.  And their biggest games have yet to hit.  For both many games were delayed. 

I do not think in any way Microsoft was 'caught off guard' by Sony at all.  And I think they knew exactly what the console would look like - and it would look very much like theirs.  Hence the tweet by one of the Xbox staff poking fun at the reveal that wasn't. 

I doubt they were surprised by the memory much.  But it would be interesting if anyone has the feed from the conference room at Microsoft where they watched the reveal.

Even the WiiU doesn't quite feel completely launched yet, but it's getting there. 

Seems like the perfect launch of recent might have been the Wii - you have Wii Sports to grab the casuals, and then Zelda: Twilight Princess to go those fans, and Wii Play for people wanting an extra controller.

"the Xbox One was more ready than the PS4"

There are zeeeroooo threads stating the above, yet popular consensus to the contrary.

"I do not think in any way Microsoft was 'caught off guard' by Sony at all."

Again, popular consensus to the contrary.

"And I think they knew exactly what the console would look like - and it would look very much like theirs.  Hence the tweet by one of the Xbox staff poking fun at the reveal that wasn't. "

What is the majority view on the looks of the two consoles eh? Which one looks too big and cheap and which one looks sleak and sexy? In any case, YOUR POINT IS MUTE because knowing what a console looks like is NOT a predicate for being prepared for the opposition AFTRER the opisition has already laid it's plans bare completely (that was 20Feb BTW).

"I doubt they were surprised by the memory much"

So they might've been surprised, but not much? More than the average gamer you'd say? Or less? Oh wait, you're not saying anything.

"Seems like the perfect launch of recent might have been the Wii - you have Wii Sports to grab the casuals, and then Zelda: Twilight Princess to go those fans, and Wii Play for people wanting an extra controller."

It might help if you specified a criteria for "perfect launch". The Wii launch was OK for non-casuals, and the sales were stellar. So I'm assuming you're going by sales. In that case the most "perfect launch" of recent times is the PS4.

Do you in any way really believe what you are saying?

Consists here has little to do with reality?  Remember all those thread where the 'Xbox 360' was 'dead on arrival'  the 'PS3 would sell the most of the gen' (it's still in 3rd by the way), ‘PS3 will be a generation ahead of the Wii and Xbox’ and you know what?  None of that ever happened.  I’m sure I can get a Bieber fan to tell me his the greatest musical of all time, doesn’t make it true.

'The most perfect launch is the PS4.'  Really?  With many of it's games delayed, and still not out?  And those that are out, the exclusives aren't getting good reviews.  It's sold a little bit better than the One, but it's also in 30 extra markets.  And they are pushing indy games!  Not that they are bad, but they are like things you can get on your phone.

Have you just missed all the reports about how the PS4 has no games?  It does have some, but many either 3^rd party, or not all that in demand.

Plus, the PS4 has triple the rate of porn watching than the Xbox One; wouldn’t those users prefer to be playing games if they had them?